Saturday, July 18, 2009

Patients First: Twitter Transcript

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From the first tweet by Dr. Val...


Medbloggers and congressman discuss healthcare reform at the National Press Club today 9am-12pm ET. Follow #patientsfirst for live coverage.

....to the multitude of tweets from participants and the audience, it was an intense and vibrant conversation. The tweets of those on Twitter were in the background as those on the panel gave their responses.

I missed it. I was working and couldn't watch. But I wanted to read the thread as it happened, in the order it happened. So I compiled it and here it is for those of you who missed it or want to read what others had to say.

To those who participated and/or tweeted, I want to say a great big "THANK YOU!!"






UPDATE: Here are some blog posts/links that are pertinent to this discussion. Feel free to email or comment below if there are others which I've missed:

Someone who actually knows how to put patients first

Congressman Paul Ryan's speech

Media piece about Patient's First

Dr. Rob's post about his experience

Dr. Wes' speech

Dr.Wes' wrap-up

Sunday, July 12, 2009

When "Putting Patients First" is a matter of perspective

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An interesting, vibrant, and on-target discussion took place on Twitter today. Dr. Rob (@doc_rob) and Dave (@ePatientDave) started discussing the event "Putting Patients First" at the National Press, hosted by Dr. Val Jones (@drval).

  1. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave What's wrong w this picture? The event "Putting patients first" has no patients on the panels http://bit.ly/3wc2vh
  2. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave Clue: talking *about* pt-centered, w/o pts in the talks, is like Congress talking about suffrage w/o women in the talks
  3. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave To be blunt about it, that approach to suffrage took nearly a century (Superb Ken Burns film http://bit.ly/PjuIH)
  4. doc_rob
  5. doc_rob
    doc_rob re: Putting Patients First - Women's suffrage is not analogous. People who work with poor and know plight of them are worth listening to.
  6. doc_rob
    doc_rob Plus, we are ALL patients in this system. I am a doctor AND a patient. I know MANY patients' hardships, not just one. I love my patients.
  7. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave @doc_rob Oo oo, the well clued @Doc_Rob is one of the panelists at the (impatient) Putting Pts First! Let's have a blogchat!
  8. doc_rob
    doc_rob Healthcare workers who give a damn and ACTUALLY care for patients have had no voice up to now. I plan on advocating for them.
  9. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave @doc_rob Seriously, will you host that? Or should e-patients.net host it? You rock!
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Dr. Rob is one of the members of the panel at the event. He has been and still is taking an active interest in representing patients. As you can see below, he continues that.

  1. doc_rob
    doc_rob @ePatientDave It's what I try to do all the time. I'd love to host a real discussion. Understand that not all docs are deaf to their pts.
  2. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave Thinking out loud...continuing suffrage thought: imagine male Congress discussing "impact on our process if women vote"
  3. doc_rob
    doc_rob Read http://bit.ly/MdRZQ
    to understand where I come from and what I will say.
  4. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave @doc_rob I do understand that. It's the "is a proxy sufficient" question. So, dude, git the party started! I'll bring some peeps.
  5. doc_rob
    doc_rob I'll put up a post on the subject tomorrow with the intent on getting discussion and hearing opinions.
  6. doc_rob
    doc_rob Nah. I'll do it today.
  7. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave @doc_rob btw, since the point is to contribute not rant, in our pre-talk we should include finding out what the audience thinks about
  8. doc_rob
    doc_rob @ePatientDave How about me writing a post that says: "Tell me what you think I should talk about in Washington?"
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As the discussion continued, others became involved also. For the sake of brevity, I didn't include all the tweets that resulted. Dr. Bryan Vartabedian (@doctor_V) posted "We're All Patients" as a response to the tweets.

  1. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave Yikes: @ "Putting pts first" http://bit.ly/3wc2vh, not only no pt spkrs; Policy Expert=pharma front CMPI http://is.gd/1wbok
  2. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave YikesX2: The CMPI "policy expert" warned 1/08 "Internet health searches are dangerous to public health" http://is.gd/1waKh
  3. Dave deBronkart
    ePatientDave He's wrong - @Eysenbach did multi-year study to find "death by googling" and found ZERO cases. http://is.gd/1wbJG
  4. doc_rob
    doc_rob @ePatientDave I was nervous about that as well. Made sure we were free to say what WE felt.
  5. Bryan Vartabedian
    Doctor_V My thoughts for those who feel @drval 's Washington panel doesn't represent patients http://bit.ly/XjDo8
  6. Bryan Vartabedian
    Doctor_V Hate it when patients feel we're not on their page http://bit.ly/XjDo8
  7. doc_rob
    doc_rob RT: My thoughts for those who feel @drval 's Washington panel doesn't represent patients http://bit.ly/XjDo8 (via @Doctor_V) - Agree.
Dr. Rob was true to his word, and posted his response, "Speak to Me" .

I posted one comment in Dr. V's post, and will on Dr. Rob's as soon as I have time. Trisha Torrey, a patient advocate, also posted “Putting Patients First” = No Patients (Time to go clean my room now.)". Mary Shomon (@ThyroidMary) had an excellent comment there. And Dr. Val (@drval) responded very honestly about the good intents of her efforts with this panel. (Thank you, Dr. Val).

Now is your time to respond. Go tell Dr. Rob what you want heard. Speak to him. What do you have to say about this? Do you think patients should be represented by patients? Do doctors count since at some point in their lives they will/are patients, too? Should we work as a team, not as antagonists?

What do you think? Say it. Now is the time.

(I will update with other posts on this topic as they occur. I'm sure there will be more.)

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